Sharing
Thoughts on Baseball with a Professional
For
a budding baseball writer, I had the unique privilege of spending some time
talking with a baseball expert, Mr. Gary Green, Chairman, and CEO of the
publication Baseball America. Not only was I able to pose questions about
baseball but from time to time I managed to express my opinion and share
thoughts about America’s pastime with Mr. Green. The wonderful interview took
place in his Manhattan home on September 30 of this year.
Gary Green of Baseball America answers Yulian’s
questions about baseball.
Yulian: What
do you do on a day to day basis as the CEO and the Publisher of Baseball
America?
Mr.
Green: I'm not the publisher; B.J. Schecter is the publisher
and the editor. He was the editor at Sports Illustrated, so he’s much more
equipped than I am to do that. I oversee business operations and make strategic
decisions but when it comes to decisions on editorial, I leave it to them.
I
tried, but I couldn’t recommend stories because I have a personal baseball
opinion and agenda so I feel it’s better to create a wall between me and the
editorial, otherwise it would be all Mets and Royals.
Yulian: I
think the 2015 World Series must’ve been really bad for you.
Mr.
Green: I wish they would have made it in different years, it
was torture. It was torture because I’m friends with the Mets and I’m friends
with the Royals.
Yulian: Why is it that in your magazine you mostly focus on
the younger aspect of baseball like prospects and college?
Mr.
Green: There’s a lot of coverage of MLB, everybody writes
about MLB. There’s not a lot of coverage about the minor leagues and high
school. That’s our niche.
Yulian: What
sports do you follow and what are your teams?
Mr.
Green: I love the Giants, the Rays, the Royals and,
obviously, the Mets, and the teams that we’re affiliated with.
Yulian: The
Rays have the lowest payroll in baseball, it’s like Moneyball.
Mr.
Green: We can talk about that. And the Giants. And the
Knicks. I don’t care for the owner. I think he’s one of the worst owners in
sports and made no moves. I think that the team wasn’t able to get any players
because of the way James Dolan handled Charles Oakley, I think there’s some
racism there. I refuse to go to a game and put $1 in Dolan’s pocket because
he’s such a bad person to the fans. He’s in recovery, he’s a recovered alcoholic.
My experience is that when you have people that are in recovery, they’re very
humble. The people that have been down and out in their lives, when they come
back up, they’re good people. He’s the rare occurrence of a horrible person
who, obviously, was down and out, but he’s just so entitled and, and he’s a
spoiled brat. And then as far as hockey, I used to love the Islanders in high
school. I don’t really follow hockey anymore.
Yulian: What
are some of the jaw-dropping perks that you receive in your position?
Mr.
Green: I like that, “jaw-dropping.” My favorite players
growing up were George Brett and Darryl
Strawberry. I see Darryl a lot, probably, every month or two. He
checks in on me every couple of weeks. Being able to be close friends with him and
pick up the phone whenever I want to call him is kind of cool. And George
Brett, I’m not as close with, but whenever I see him, he always gives me a big
hug and knows who I am. A couple of years ago, we had Royals cocktail party and
Darryl came with me and George was there and it was just really cool to hang
out with both of them at the same time. I also was being able to meet with
Warren Buffett half a dozen times. People pay $3 million for that meeting and I
had it for free about half a dozen times. That was cool, probably it was my
most awesome moment, my couple awesome moments. I'll give you my top three: one
was when we dedicated a statue to Bob Gibson in front of our ballpark, because
he’s from Omaha and I was able to speak and share the podium with Gibson, Joe
Torre, Warren Buffett, Bud Selig, the governor of Nebraska and Tim McCarver, so
that was cool. The other great moments are we won the National Championship two
years in a row and to watch, like you do, the players pouring champagne on their
heads. But to be able to do that three or four times with a different playoff
series and then the championship – I never thought I’d be able to do that. So
those are the great moments.
Yulian: What baseball team do you think is going to come out
on top this year?
Mr.
GREEN: I think Houston.
Yulian: Yeah,
they’ll crush Yankees in the championship series.
Mr.
GREEN: I don’t like the Yankees. I hope the Twins beat them.
Yulian: Where did your love for baseball come from?
Mr. GREEN: My dad was always a Little League manager for me and my
brothers. I remember him throwing groundballs to us all the time in the
backyard. My dad was a Brooklyn Dodger fan. When the Dodgers left Brooklyn,
Dodger fans and Giant fans became Mets fans.
A
Mets player, Tug McGraw, was our neighbor, so we went to the Mets games with
Tug’s family and I was waiting outside of the locker room to get autographs. I
think Tug McGraw and my dad are two of the main reasons why I love
baseball.
Yulian: Tell
me, please, about your Little League seasons and other baseball playing.
Mr.
GREEN: I played Little League every year. I think I started
when I was seven. Also, I played Hardball Tournament into my forties. I went to
a Mets fantasy camp and to a Reds-Red Sox 75-year-old World Series fantasy
camp. That was so cool to hang out with guys like Pat
Zachry, John Stearns, Duffy Dyer and Doc Gooden.
Yulian: Do
you think that the statistics are taking over the baseball world?
Mr. GREEN: From a fan’s standpoint, I think it’s too much. I don’t
like it at the game when they show me the miles per hour off the bat of a
groundball. If you want to show the miles per hour off the bat of a home run,
that’s one thing. But I don’t need to see it on every pitch. I do like seeing
the WAR rating that they put up at Citi Field. I think that’s cool. Watching
StatCast at home is different. I don’t mind all the numbers, but watching it at
the game, too many numbers, it’s just too much.
And
as far as the stats that have taken over the game, I feel that you have to have
numbers of people, there are certain GMs that are more instinct focused. I
think Brodie Van Wagenen brought
the analytic department to the Mets and they had the smallest analytics
department in baseball.
Yulian: Brodie brought
in 36-year-old Robinson Cano and he was suspended for half the year last season
and they brought him in. He played average all this year.
Mr. GREEN: He got hurt. I think he should have taken a year to
assess their minor league system. He should’ve known that this kid Kelenic was
going to be the number 14 prospect in baseball.
Yulian: They
kept him because they need a center fielder. I think they were like this
offseason and they should bring in Lorenzo Cain then finish his career with the
Mets and then they should’ve brought up Jarred Kelenic.
Mr.
GREEN: Is he a free agent this year?
Yulian: No,
I think they could’ve worked out a trade.
Mr.
GREEN: Well, the Brewers are doing well. They should’ve have
taken a year. I think that under Sandy Alderson they had the smallest analytics
department in baseball. He did bring in Yoenis Cespedes, but you can’t act on
hunches anymore. There are certain GMs that have been successful in the past
that are going to be losing their jobs over the next couple of years. They
don’t have the numbers people, they’ve worked on instinct, and they’ve done
very well with it. But the game has changed now.
Yulian: If you created a baseball team, who are the first five
players you would take? Reasonably speaking, not like Max Scherzer and Mike
Trout. What would be the first five players?
Mr. GREEN: Well, you mean the current players? I'd say Trout,
Alonso, of course. deGrom. I know Mookie Betts didn’t have a good year this
year, but I’d still put him in there, he’s number 4. What
would be your number 5?
Yulian: deGrom,
Trout, Baez, Alonso.
Mr.
GREEN: Not Betts?
Yulian: I
want to see who else I can get. Oh, Yelich. We forgot about Yelich. Include him
too.
Mr. GREEN: How about Bellinger?
Yulian: I
like Yelich more because he has more speed and a better arm. I really would’ve
wanted to see a 50-30 season. Do you think team chemistry is important for a team to
have and why?
Mr. GREEN: That is the best question you’ve asked so far. Yes and
no. I feel that when a player gets up to bat and he’s facing somebody who’s
throwing 90 to a 100, I don’t think that he’s thinking about liking the guys on
the bench or not. He’s trying to hit a ball. In the field, the chemistry works
really well and I think it matters. And, if you can create an environment where
people are having fun and they are happy, I feel like hitters will go up to bat
in a better, positive frame of mind, so you have a team like the Mets who I’m
sure when they were losing, the chemistry wasn’t great. And when they started
winning again, chemistry became great.
I
played in a Hardball Tournament in Cooperstown. We started out the tournament
0-4. Nobody liked anybody. It was brutal. And then we won the next six games
and we won the championship and the chemistry changed – overnight. So I think
it’s hard to find great chemistry in a losing team but a winning team doesn’t
always have great chemistry, but it certainly increases for sure.
Yulian: Winning increases team chemistry. I love Alonso. He’s a
rookie and I love and how he created LFGM and he’s just such a leader.
Mr. GREEN: Yes, he is and the way he handles it is right.
Yulian: What makes a good player in your mind?
Mr.
GREEN: Athleticism. When they’re athletic, and if they train
themselves properly, they get hurt less as opposed to a guy like Prince Fielder
who got hurt. He was too big. When you carry too much weight on your structure,
more than you’re supposed to, I think your body breaks down like Mark McGwire.
Yulian: I think hustle. As a coach, you love to see hustle in a
player.
Mr.
GREEN: That’s a great answer.
Yulian: Do
you think Pete Alonso is a flash in the pan or will he do the same thing?
Mr. GREEN: I think it’s unreasonable to expect him to hit 53 home
runs every year. I spoke about this with Darryl the other day. If he could hit
35, 40 or something like that every year and put up 120, 110 RBIs, I think
that’s more realistic. But then again with these new baseballs rules that
have changed the seams, the seams are lower. It’s more aerodynamic. The numbers
that we’re used to spitting out like I just did, maybe those numbers are thing
in the past. Maybe the expectations should be 45 to 50 home runs because of the
ball. We saw in Minor League Baseball, they made us switch to the major league
ball this year. Homers are up 60%. I feel that more home runs add more excitement
to the game. MLB owns Rawlings. Major league baseball’s probably behind the
better ball, the more aerodynamic balls.
Yulian: I
would rather go to a game where it’s 11-10 rather than 1-0 or 2-1.
Mr.
GREEN: I think most fans do.
Yulian:
What are your hopes and dreams for baseball?
Mr. GREEN: That the game perpetuates and evolves so that
the younger generation can carry the torch. What MLB is attempted to do in MILB
in current negotiations can potentially strip affiliated baseball from 40
cities in the U.S. MLB can’t say they want young people to grow the game while
doing something like this.
Yulian:
I am sure I will have more questions for you in the future as baseball is
living thing. May I contact you again for another interview?
Mr. GREEN: Of course!
Yulian: Thank
you for your time and a great interview.
Mr. GREEN: It was my pleasure!